Four More Years - Thank GOD!!!

[ice]

Just a quick post to thank all of you that voted for OUR Commander in Chief and President, George W. Bush.

For those of you who didn't vote at all, shame on you...you just lost the right to bi ch.

For those of you who voted for the "first loser", you are welcome inside our tent. But you need to know a few things:

1. We value character traits like honor, and actually look for it in our candidates as a prerequisite. We don't have much paitence for liars like Michael Moore or the rest of the elite media and/or hollywood types.

2. We'll always vote pro-gun...period. Don't even think about taking our weapons away. We hunt (really hunt) and believe that law abiding citizens should be free to own any d**n firearm they can afford even if they don't hunt! Did anyone notice Kerry with the over & under on his photo-op goose hunt? Is this the tool you would choose to shoot geese? Me either, but the media doesn't know the difference.

3. We're for a strong national defense, and we're willing to pursue terrorists states to the end of the world to keep them from killing one more innocent non-combatant man, woman or child. We'll stay in IRAQ as long as it takes, and as long as the terrorist's continue to show up to get their ass kicked. We'd rather fight this war in their part of the world, then on our streets. We'll also support our President when he kicks the ass of any terrorist supporter and/or nation state. Remember what the man said, "You are either with us, or your against us". How much simpler must we make it?

4. Lower taxes is GOOD. Hell it's our money, not the governments. Why shouldn't we get to keep more of it?

I have a lot more to say, but since I stayed up all night watching Tom Brokaw try to figure a way out of his worst nightmare, I must now get some rest. I can rest now for I know that we'll have mature, honorable leadership in these United States for at least the next four years.

Amen,

ICE 7.62

[dead0man]

What about us that voted for the 3rd loser? We are pro-gun and for lower taxes (lower than any Republican would ever consider giving you)...we like the military but would probably cut some funding and we hate the same people you hate (liberal elite).

We do probably differ on some social issues though. We don't care if you get high in your basement at night or swing from the wrong side of the plate. We agree that just because your skin is a certain color doesn't give you any more right for a job or college. We do think women should have a right to choose, but tax dollars should never EVER pay for one. I don't care if a couple of Homo's in San Fran want to share an insurance policy, some of you do. I don't want them teaching in grade school either.

Overall we probably agree on most issues, but sorry, I couldn't vote for Bush II(I did vote for his father, twice!). Until the Pubbies realize that their base isn't the far religous right and Bill Gates, I will continue to vote Libertarian.

[ice]

In response to Dead0Man:

Your core values sir, are certainly more in line with our side, than the dark side. Actually you sound like a democrat, before that party was carjacked by the radical left, the likes of Michael Moore and company.

I apoligize for overlooking your candidate, but I must say it's an easy mistake to make, considering the marginal candidate put forward, and the lack of muscle (read money) behind that machine. Without the organization and an ability to raise funds, the message simply doesn't get out.

I don't agree with all of the GOP or President Bush's positions, nor do I fully endorse and support all of his nominations. But at the very heart of the issue (for me), I feel that President Bush is truly committed to winning the war on terror, and to me, it's the single most important issue of our day. I don't believe it's politically convienent, I know he's serious, and damn the consequences. Using our outstanding military to seek and destroy these basta ds where they hide and plan is the way to go, in my view. Considerably more risk than calling it a law enforcement problem (my world) or lobbing a few cruise missles at them.

I also think that sticking our head in the sand, and letting the rest of the world fend for themselves is foolish, and short sighted. We are the only legitimate super power, and we must use this power to maintain a balance in the civilized (and not so civilized) world. I'm all for preemptive action...stop them BEFORE they attack us. Or as the bumper sticker reads "GIVE WAR A CHANCE".

As far as IRAQ goes, I think he's still on the right track. There is not a single nation state today, that was more ripe for collusion with these terrorist basta ds than was IRAQ. They shared in their hate for us, and there is no question that Saddam would have loaned and/or sold a WMD to these cowards had he had the opportunity. The administration acted on the best intelligence available, and the operative word is "acted". Decisively, and risking it all, because it was the right thing to do.
Note: If you haven't read General Tommy Frank's book, which is still out only in hardback, I'd highly recommend it. Provides some valuable insight into how this all happened.

My respect for the man doubled when he took on Immigration reform, in a campaign year, when everyone, including him, knew that it would piss off his base (including the religous right), and ruffle feathers nationwide.

It's an issue without a real clear solution, as half the country wants us to keep everyone out, and the other half wants us to let everyone in. No win situation, that continues to deteriorate daily. George W. Bush recognizes this, and was willing to put his crediibility on the line to attempt, for the first time ever, to reform this mess.

He did it , not for the hispanic vote as many detractors would have you believe, but because it's the right thing to do. I admire people that do the right thing, even if it's unpopular.

He's a man of his word, and I'm sure our nations enemies wish and pray that this election had turned out some other way!!

Told you I had more to say, huh???

Adios,

ICE 7.62

[dead0man]

There is no doubt my core values fall much more in line with the majority of Republicans than it does the majority of Democrats. But there is enough differences between my beleifs and the Republican core platform to keep me from voting for them (for the most part).

Re:The Libertarian party. Man, I understand better than you know The party needs a huge infusion of money, brains and will. I know the country has a lot more libertarian's at heart than they do Greenies or Socialists. We were the only 3rd party candidate on all 50 state ballots for Pres. We hold numerous local positions all around the country, but we can't even get our foot in the door in DC. It's a closed club, new members need not apply and to make it hard(er) for you to open the door, we won't let you get the word out for free either (debates, free or cheap TV time, etc). But our core is just as FUBARed as the core of the other parties, ours are just stoners and anarchists

Re: Bush. He certainly seems like a nice enough guy and I don't (like many) look down my nose at him because he some issues in public speaking. Being able to cleary put your point across does not make one a good politician, but it obviously helps (Clinton). I don't believe in any global conspiracy with Bush as the front man and oil/money/power as the goal. I grew up with a pretty hardcore Republican father and a Kennedy Democrat, but Reagan/Bush voter, mother. I voted nearly straight Repbulican the first few times. But I can't continue to support a party that goes against some of my personaly important issues. Mainly the war on drugs. Add in that the ones we DO agree I think they pussy foot around to much with. If a judge wants the 10 Comandments above his bench, why should we bend over for the ACLU and force him to take him down? I'm not even all that religous and I'm all for the seperation of church and state, but come on. Plus both parties have held the nation in a black and white state for WAY to long. You are either with us, against us or we don't give a piss about you.

But what I really hate are Democrats Actually, I LIKE most realDemocrats I know. Most of my friends are Dems. The ones that get it and are in it for the rigth reasons. I don't think the poor should recieve hand outs from the govt., but I can certainly see why some people do think that way. I don't give a rats ass about a spotted owl, but I can see why some people do and I can respect that. What I can't stand are people....chit...days are here...i got to go....

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[TimberWolf762]

Actually, I used to work with the Libertarian candidate for lieutenant governor of Texas. He lost, of course. But I found his stances to be just a little too people-centered and not enough society-centered.

You have to make some sacrifices to live in a society, such as supporting a strong military. You have to have intellligence agencies and not allow just anyone to know all of your secrets - including the taxpayers who paid for them.

This guy had a stamp made up that said "Not required by the Constitution" and stamped it in red on his census forms, when the census is actually useful for apportioning federal funds, for example.

So it's all a matter of degrees. You Libs have some good ideas, but little chance of really winning anything. Not a slam, just fact.

[dead0man]

I feel ya Timber. There are a lot of nuts in the party, no question there. I'm all for a large military (it's how I pay the bills) and I know many if not most Libs aren't and if they ever want to become a more important party they are going to have to make some concesions and that would most likely be one of them.

I always have filled out the census, but I don't ever answer race based questions. I'm "other" or nothing at all. The color of my skin should have no bases on anything, good or bad.